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we've been doing a lot of talking about

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the kounotori3 it is scheduled to launch

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tonight from the Tanegashima Space

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Center in Japan aboard that cargo

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spacecraft we have about three and a

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half tonnes of cargo that is scheduled

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to go up 20% of that cargo is a

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experiment related equipment and so here

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to talk with us today we have Pete has

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booked is the associate program

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scientists welcome Pete and thank you

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for coming thank you very much I'm glad

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to be here today well so as we were

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saying there is about 3 and 1/2 tons of

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cargo that is scheduled to go up 20% of

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that cargo is experiment related

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equipment and a lot of our equipment

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that's actually going up and so peter is

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here to talk to us a little about that

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but first I'd like to talk a little

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about you so tell me first how you came

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about coming to NASA how do you made

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your way to where you are now I've been

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at JSC for 27 years I grew up in

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Michigan studied aerospace engineering

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at the University of Notre Dame and came

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here to the Mission Operations

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Directorate right out of school I held

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two different positions on the shuttle

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flight control team in operations and

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then about 10 years ago I came over to

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the Space Station program office which

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is the program management of the

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International Space Station about a

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month ago I started my new job which is

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the associate program scientist Wow

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so you need to this this thing so I

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understand so you were an increment

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manager and so you obviously know a lot

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about the ISS Space Station operations

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and so we'll get into some of that as

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well as obviously there were some

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station operations and also some

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partnership things that we that took

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place for getting our payload onboard

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the the cargo ship that is scheduled to

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go up and this is the second operational

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Japanese cargo ship that's going up

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correct yes it's the third of the HTV

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vehicles the first one was a

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demonstration mission it was fully

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successful and so now the second and

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third are the ones that we've relied on

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for for all the good cargo okay so a

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month into your position as the

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associate program scientists explain a

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little bit about that so a program

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scientist as a part of the International

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Space Station program management office

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the program scientist represents this

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aspect of the station the station is a

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laboratory it's a huge laboratory it's a

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huge complex to manage so there's a lot

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of competing interests in managing that

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keeping a crew safe keeping the crew

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supplied keeping all the systems up and

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running keeping the crew healthy but we

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want to use the laboratory for its

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purpose which is science investigations

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we also want to do that as the

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international partnership which is set

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up and that's kind of where I come in my

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previous job as an increment manager was

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a mission manager and I worked

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partners now

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in the program science office I will be

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focusing on again working with the

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partners but now more on collaboration

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making sure we're using the station

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effectively communicating with those

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partners looking for synergy and

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collaboration and then the other part of

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what a program science office does is we

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report on what we're using the station

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for some of that is reporting to

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management reporting to our partners

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how effectively we're using the station

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and then also educating the public

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whether it's educating our NASA

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employees to go out and talk to the

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public or just in general something like

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this telling people what we do we have

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people today in New York for the opening

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of the enterprise at the MMP intrepid

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museum some of our offices are out there

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telling people about what we do very

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interesting so now I want to talk about

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some of the things that are going up

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because we do have a lot of really

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interesting things and I'm really glad

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to hear that you referred to this Space

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Station as a laboratory because I think

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sometimes we we forget it's not just an

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orbital home flying in space that is

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to maintain there is a reason that we

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are there and that is for the science

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that we are able to bring up and so

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coverage of the launch at 8:15 p.m. here

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on NASA television as well for those of

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you who are watching so let's get into

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some of those things that are going up

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one of the payloads that NASA payload

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that is going up up aboard the HTV 3 is

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scan testbed now scan is an acronym

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navigation yes so explain to me what

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cargo that never comes inside the

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station but it gets mounted outside the

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station in this case the scan testbed is

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demonstrating advanced radio technology

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the principal investigator is a Glenn

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Goddard Space Flight Center as well as

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transistors tubes converters this new

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technology uses computers more uses

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modems and it's a reconfigurable radio

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spacecraft let's say and then if

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the radio back to the ground it's also

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station and it will be transferred up to

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an external location on the station so

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several different wavelengths ok great

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we can fly that piece of hardware there

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software inside that hardware another

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advantage of using the station you know

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the earth and test it but the station is

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there it's a National Laboratory so it's

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an opportunity for us to take equipment

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interesting and there's a long list of

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things that are going up there so we're

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into the Japanese experiment module it

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is the aquarium system that will let the

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Japanese scientists study fish there are

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no fish in this aquarium yet but it's

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sending the systems up it's a

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complicated system if you think of an

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aquarium you know it's got pumps and

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filters and through the filters it puts

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oxygen back in the water for the fish

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airlock to get outside the station well

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in microgravity so there's a basically a

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water lock where eventually the fish

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into the aquarium without one the water

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study are the medaka fish here in the

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u.s. our researchers use mice because we

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understand mice we understand them as a

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model of the human body so we understand

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drug or a disease how that might apply

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history of studying fish and the medaka

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fish is a model for them of the human

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body so in a sense they've got so much

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history on the ground if you fly the

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fish and study at microgravity you

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what you're seeing in microgravity that

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makes sense and it's really really kind

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of exciting to think about fish and

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space in an aquarium can you just go on

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for me about the size of this aquarium

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the fish themselves are fairly small so

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they fit in there that the aquarium not

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doing okay and then what type of fish

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gonna quote you okay so another major

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science aspect that we work on

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continuously is earth observations for a

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number of reasons and so we've been

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doing that for you know just in the crew

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earth observations for many many years

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and so obvious obviously and there's

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obviously really great advantages for of

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the vantage point of the space station

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not only for where it flies but the fact

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that it flies all around the world many

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literally can cross every part of the

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earth so I understand we have a new

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going to be brought up and this is the

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remote controlled and so if you can

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explain to me how it is remote

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the result of a cooperation of NASA and

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development I believe it is the idea is

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that we want to use satellite and

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spacecraft technology to the data that

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rainfall and get that out to governments

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the Caribbean company or countries that

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space-based data but are affected quite

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a bit whether it's earthquakes or rain

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capability and our imagery to get that

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out to these governments so they can see

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what's going on in their countries and

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their their countryside and make

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disasters or potential disasters the

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laboratory it's an optical quality large

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window and we're going to use it with

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this new camera this camera is really a

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looking down the barrel of a bigger

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telescope about an eight inch telescope

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this telescope is on gimbals so the

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ground can command it to one side or the

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other of the ground track the program

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parts of the earth and if there's

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something that the ground wants to see

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specifically the area and then share

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that okay and so it would only require

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window set up the computers it's

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controlled by a laptop computer so it's

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a very small footprint once the crew

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monitor it the ground we'll be able to

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predict it the ground we'll be able to

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pictures and don't like the picture

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that's very efficient so and again those

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photographs are taken of the earth and

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are not only beautiful to look at but

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they actually do serve a purpose for you

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know some research that we are doing

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here to help understand and obviously in

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those development countries where they

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don't have the capability of being able

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to you know study those and especially

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that they are hit with things like

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hurricanes and tsunamis and you know

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wildfires and that sort of thing not

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only from from a disaster standpoint but

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also from an environmental changes part

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history of of the ground areas that

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they're looking at whether it's a

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seasonal history or years in the making

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history see how things are changing you

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can use that to say this area needs more

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fertilizer this area is at risk of

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mudslides so it's a it's a good way to

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use the technology and other benefit of

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the station is it's a relatively low

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altitude so the pictures are closer to

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the ground we can get better resolution

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think is the the YouTube Spacelab yes

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tell me a little about what that is as

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we know I'm new to this office and I've

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just been learning about it but in the

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last couple of days as I've looked into

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the YouTube Spacelab competition I'm

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really impressed with what they've done

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this is what we call an educational

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outreach public outreach activity it was

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sponsored through

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through YouTube and public sponsors and

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school high school there were two age

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ranges 14 to 16 and 16 to 18 and it was

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to get into this competition the idea

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was pick something in physics or in

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biology and propose an experiment to be

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done on the International Space Station

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and to do that you had to submit a

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two-minute video of yourself introducing

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yourself what your concept was what your

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hypothesis was how you had test it and

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how would you use your results they had

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something like 2,000 entries it's a huge

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they've had millions of views on this

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YouTube website so they narrowed it down

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to about 60 I think finalists and part

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of the voting to select the final was

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through the public voting on the YouTube

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website they narrowed it down the two

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finalists are having their experiment

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launched on the HTV and it will be

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executed operated by the crew and the

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neat thing that I saw as well sunny

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winners I think it was last December

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January she's on board now she will be

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the one executing the the experiments

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there were two teams that were two

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individuals that won one was a set from

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Michigan my home state two young ladies

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that are that proposed biology

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experiment they saw that results of

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previous research that said Salmonella

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gets more very very went viral int on

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station in microgravity meaning that

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it's more effective and in that case

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it's more dangerous to you well they

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thought we know of an antifungal let's

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fly that and the premises if it works

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this well on the earth maybe in

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microgravity it does an even better job

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and we care long-term about fungus on

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ISS you get mold on walls it's a bad

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thing it can deteriorate your your walls

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your metals on board so they proposed

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this experiment it's got what we call

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controls on the ground they're gonna

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monitor how the fungus the fungicide

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reacts on the ground and then see how it

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reacts after having flown in space

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of these educational type research

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projects that are going up because there

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are a lot of smart kiddos out there

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let's face it and it's really neat that

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we're able to send that up there and you

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know it's in the end what we learn from

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that in turn helps us as well I think we

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may have the website here but if you go

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search on YouTube that website again is

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at www.youtube.com/watch v / so you can

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go and look at all the videos that they

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have there and the contest and I know

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there are some a couple of QA scientific

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QA videos there as well so have a visit

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and check that out and now I want to

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talk about so like I said we have a huge

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list of things that have gone up and

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that's I mean really good because again

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like you said Space Station is a lab and

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that is what it is so like I said three

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and a half tons of cargo is going up

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aboard the kounotori3 again the second

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operational cargo ship from from Japan

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so I want to talk a little about the

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space station operations and that part

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the international partnership okay how

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we get this stuff to Japan and on that

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spacecraft and up to the space station

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how do we work with our international

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partner we first off we need to decide

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what we're gonna fly and we have

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projections on how much food the crew

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eats what they're going to need to wear

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how much medical equipment they need we

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also have an extensive process of

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looking into the future and what science

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will be ready to fly what science we

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need to fly in that timeframe what the

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crew will be trained for so there's a

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process to look at all that and divide

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up the cargo allocation among the crew

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supplies among the emergency and

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maintenance supplies and then especially

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we want to get as much utilization or

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research hardware onboard as we can

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so once we've defined that we know what

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hardware needs to fly there's a

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manifesting process as we call it that

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says this is how much it weighs how big

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it is this is the when it can be

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delivered there's a lot of folks that

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work with the the scheduling and

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delivering the hardware making sure it's

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safe making sure it's packaged correctly

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that then is deliver

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in our case here at JSC and then it

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shipped over to Japan and turned over to

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the Japanese to load into the vehicle

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and how far in advance did they send our

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cargo to Japan and then and for their

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loading how long did that take you know

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I don't know that wouldn't even it was

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also a part of my old job that I didn't

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do so much in well that's okay so again

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we have another website you can go to to

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learn more about these things that we

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talked about and the rest of that list

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if you go to WWE gov slash mission

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underscore station pages slash station

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research now the easy way to go there is

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www.nasa.gov slash station on the left

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hand navigation just click on research

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and you can find the whole list there

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you can search it by experiment name

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alphabetically you have a couple areas

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if I can interrupt the we have areas

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specifically for researchers for if you

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have an experiment that you want to fly

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on the space station there's a section

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for researchers there's a section for

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teachers for educators how we can get

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NASA projects into your classroom and

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then for students or for kids there's

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another section that say I have an idea

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for something I want to fly on Space

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Station there's a section for them on

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there ok thank you so much and also if

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you want to follow along yes more of the

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research go to Twitter twitter.com slash

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slash it's just ISS underscore research

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on Twitter you can learn everything

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that's going on the newest updates will

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be there and thank you so much Pete for

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coming and again we all look forward to

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the third space cargo cargo spacecraft

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from Japan launching tonight at 9:06

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p.m. Central time and we will have live

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coverage for you here here on NASA

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television at 8:15 p.m. Central time

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9:15 p.m. eastern time and then that

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cargo spacecraft will be undocked to the

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space station with all this good step